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03/23/2022 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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            HB 133-AK ED SAVINGS PROGRAMS/ELIGIBILITY                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:02:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO announced  the consideration of CS  FOR HOUSE BILL                                                               
NO. 133(L&C) "An  Act relating to the Alaska  savings program for                                                               
eligible  individuals; relating  to  education savings  programs;                                                               
relating  to  the Education  Trust  of  Alaska; relating  to  the                                                               
Alaska  advance college  tuition  savings fund;  relating to  the                                                               
Alaska education  savings program  for children; and  relating to                                                               
the Governor's Council on Disabilities and Special Education."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
She stated  that this is the  first hearing and the  intention is                                                               
to hear the introduction and take invited and public testimony.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:02:40 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  ZACK FIELDS,  Alaska  State Legislature,  Juneau,                                                               
Alaska,  sponsor of  HB  133,  stated that  the  House Labor  and                                                               
Commerce Committee  worked collectively  on the bill.  He thanked                                                               
Representative Nelson  whose staff  Kim Skipper was  working when                                                               
the  original  ABLE  Act was  introduced  by  Representative  Dan                                                               
Saddler. He said  that is relevant because HB  133 has conforming                                                               
changes to the  federal law that passed after  that original ABLE                                                               
Act passed.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS gave a presentation  to explain the updates                                                               
HB 133  makes to the ABLE  Act. He paraphrased slide  2 that read                                                               
as follows:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                     WHAT IS AN ABLE ACCOUNT?                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        • ABLE: "Achieving a Better Life Experience"                                                                            
       • Tax-free savings account for individuals with                                                                          
          qualifying disabilities                                                                                               
         • Funds may be used to pay for items such as                                                                           
          disability    expenses,     education,    housing,                                                                    
          transportation                                                                                                        
        • Distributions into  accounts  are   not  counted                                                                      
          against individual in determining eligibility for                                                                     
          Medicaid and needs-based assistance programs                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS provided a brief history of the 2013                                                                      
federal ABLE Act:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        • Signed into federal law in December 2014 as part                                                                      
          of the Tax Extenders package.                                                                                         
        • Established  529A    (ABLE)   savings    account                                                                      
         exclusively for individuals with disabilities.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS reviewed the Alaska ABLE Act, paraphrasing                                                                
slide 5:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        • Signed into law in July 2016.                                                                                         
        • Authorized establishment of a state ABLE program                                                                      
          to be administered by Department of Revenue.                                                                          
        • Matched the 2013ABLEAct passed by Congress.                                                                           
        • Alaska joined the National ABLE Alliance, a group                                                                     
          of 17 states formed to share information, create                                                                      
          economies of scale and provide a hub for                                                                              
          financial inquiries.                                                                                                  
        • Since passage, 787 accounts have been created in                                                                      
         Alaska with more than $7,100,000.00 in assets.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:05:11 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS reviewed the improvements Congress made to                                                                
the federal ABLE Act. He spoke to the bullet points on slides 7-                                                                
9, which read as follows:                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                        ABLE TO WORK ACT                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
        • Signed into law in 2017 as part of the  Tax Cuts                                                                      
          and Jobs Act.                                                                                                         
        • Increased annual contributions levels.                                                                                
        • Incentivized employment    by   increasing   the                                                                      
          contribution level for employed beneficiaries                                                                         
          from $15,000 to $27,060.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                  ABLE FINANCIAL PLANNING ACT                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        • Signed into law in 2017 as part of the  Tax Cuts                                                                      
          and Jobs Act.                                                                                                         
         • Allowed college saving account funds (529                                                                            
          accounts) to roll over into ABLE accounts.                                                                            
       • Allowed individuals who incurred disabilities                                                                          
          after they established 529 college savings plan                                                                       
          to roll over savings into ABLE account.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                     ABLE AGE ADJUSTMENT ACT                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
      • Will increase the age of eligibility from 26 to                                                                         
          reflect federal code-legislation is under way to                                                                      
          increase this age eligibility to 46.                                                                                  
        • Will allow more participation in ABLE accounts.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:05:46 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS noted  that in  the previous  committee of                                                               
referral  Senator   Hughes  suggested  writing  to   the  federal                                                               
delegation to voice  support for raising the  age of eligibility.                                                               
The argument is why shouldn't  someone who becomes disabled after                                                               
age 26 be allowed to create an  ABLE account. HB 133 will link to                                                               
the federal age  threshold so it won't be necessary  to amend the                                                               
statute in the future because  it will track the federal enabling                                                               
law automatically.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS reviewed the updates proposed in HB 133:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                     HB 133 PROPOSED UPDATES                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        • Expands age eligibility limits.                                                                                       
      • Allows greater flexibility in using funds to pay                                                                        
          for education expenses.                                                                                               
      • Allows 529 program accounts to roll into an ABLE                                                                        
          account.                                                                                                              
     • Aligns with federal regulations regarding program                                                                        
          savings accounts.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked the members if there were any questions.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:07:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   MICCICHE    summarized   this   state    statute   will                                                               
automatically update when the federal law changes.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS agreed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:08:24 PM                                                                                                                    
GRACE KUBIT, Staff, Representative Zack Fields, Alaska State                                                                    
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, read the sectional analysis for HB
133.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided with small formatting changes.]                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1        Establishes AS 06.65.020(b).                                                                            
     Directs the  Department of  Health and  Social Services                                                                    
     to consult with the  Governor's Council on Disabilities                                                                    
     and  Special  Education   when  overseeing  the  Alaska                                                                    
     Savings Program.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2        Amends AS 06.65.100.                                                                                    
     Expands the  age of eligibility  for a  program account                                                                    
     from age  26 to match  that in the  federal authorizing                                                                    
     law.  This   effectively  removes   an  age   cap  that                                                                    
     prevented those  who became disabled after  26 years of                                                                    
     age from being eligible.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3        Amends AS 06.65.160(a).                                                                                 
     Expands  the   rules  allowing  a  person   to  make  a                                                                    
     contribution for a designated  beneficiary to match the                                                                    
     guidelines in AS 14.40.802(f)(3).                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4        Amends AS 06.65.160(c).                                                                                 
     Expands the rules  regarding who is eligible  to make a                                                                    
     program  account contribution  to match  the guidelines                                                                    
     in AS 14.40.802(f)(3).                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5         Amends AS 06.65.200(a).                                                                                
     Specifies  that rollover  may occur  between a  program                                                                    
     account to another  account as long as  the new account                                                                    
     is authorized by federal law.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6           Amends AS 09.38.015(a)(8).                                                                           
     Replaces  "higher   education"  savings   account  with                                                                    
     "education savings account".                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7           Amends AS 14.10.170(a).                                                                              
     Replaces  "postsecondary  education"  with  "education"                                                                    
     when  referring to  an  education  savings account  and                                                                    
     renames the "Alaska Higher  Education Savings Trust" to                                                                    
     the "Education Trust of Alaska".                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
2:10:14 PM                                                                                                                    
     Section 8           Amends AS 14.40.802(a).                                                                              
     Renames the "Alaska Higher  Education Savings Trust" to                                                                    
     the   "Education   Trust   of  Alaska"   and   replaces                                                                    
     "postsecondary   education"   with   "education"   when                                                                    
     referring  to education  savings accounts.  Removes the                                                                    
     allowance that  education savings accounts can  be used                                                                    
     to  pay  for  room  and  board  when  using  funds  for                                                                    
     education costs  as this  language is  included already                                                                    
     included federal law.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 9          Establishes AS 14.40.802(f)(3).                                                                       
     Allows  a  participant  of an  account  to  change  the                                                                    
     beneficiary  of their  account to  any individual,  not                                                                    
     just a  family member. Allows participants  to transfer                                                                    
     all or a portion of  their account as a contribution to                                                                    
     another account  if it does  not exceed  federal limits                                                                    
     when added  to any other  contributions and is  for the                                                                    
     beneficiary of that new account  or for a family member                                                                    
     who is an eligible individual as well.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 10        Amends AS 14.40.802(g).                                                                                
     Makes transfers between  accounts limitable or deniable                                                                    
     if   the  transfer   does  not   meet  the   guidelines                                                                    
     established in AS 14.40.802(f)(3).                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 11        Amends AS 14.40.802(j).                                                                                
     Removes  the   restriction  that  when   a  beneficiary                                                                    
     designates  a successor  participant  to their  account                                                                    
     the change cannot take effect  until after the death or                                                                    
     mental incapacity of the beneficiary.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 12        Amends AS 14.40.802(n)(2).                                                                             
     Redefines "beneficiary" to match  what is defined under                                                                    
     federal law.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:11:59 PM                                                                                                                  
     Section 13        Amends AS 14.40.802(n)(7).                                                                             
     Replaces  "qualified  higher education  expenses"  with                                                                    
     "qualified  education   expenses"  and   redefines  the                                                                    
     phrase to  mean qualified higher education  expenses as                                                                    
     defined in federal law.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 14        Amends AS 14.40.802(n)(8).                                                                             
     Redefines  "trust"  to  reflect   the  name  change  of                                                                    
     "Alaska   Higher  Education   Savings  Trust"   to  the                                                                    
     "Education Trust of Alaska".                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 15         Amends AS 14.40.809(b).                                                                               
     Renames the "Alaska Higher  Education Savings Trust" to                                                                    
     the "Education Trust of Alaska".                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 16          Amends AS 40.25.120(a).                                                                              
     Renames the "Alaska Higher  Education Savings Trust" to                                                                    
     the "Education Trust of Alaska".                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 17         Amends AS 47.10.093(b).                                                                               
     Removes  the  distinction   of  higher  education  when                                                                    
     referring to the Alaska education savings program.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 18         Amends AS 47.12.310(b).                                                                               
     Removes  the  distinction   of  higher  education  when                                                                    
     referring to the Alaska education savings program.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 19         Amends AS 47.14.400(a).                                                                               
     Removes  the  distinction   of  higher  education  when                                                                    
     referring  to  an   education  investment  program  and                                                                    
     replaces  "University of  Alaska college  savings plan"                                                                    
     with "education savings plan".                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:13:21 PM                                                                                                                  
     Section 20         Amends AS 47.14.400(b).                                                                               
     Removes  the  distinction   of  higher  education  when                                                                    
     referring to an education investment program.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 21        Amends AS 47.14.400(c).                                                                                
     Replaces   "college  savings   plan"  with   "education                                                                    
     savings  plan"  and   replaces  "University  of  Alaska                                                                    
     College savings plan" with "education savings plan".                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 22         Amends AS 47.14.400(e)(3).                                                                            
     Replaces  "higher   education  savings   program"  with                                                                    
     "education  savings   program"  and   "college  savings                                                                    
     account" with "education savings plan".                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 23         Establishes AS 47.14.400(e)(5).                                                                       
     Defines "education  savings plan" to mean  an education                                                                    
     savings program.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 24         Repeals AS 47.14.400(e)(2).                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO observed that most of the Act takes effect July                                                                  
1, 2022, but Section 7 takes effect immediately.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:14:44 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS replied he believes  so and added that most                                                               
of  the sections  are  conforming changes  to  rename the  Alaska                                                               
Higher Education Savings Trust to the Education Trust of Alaska.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO asked  if there  was  a reason  for renaming  the                                                               
trust.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  replied it's  a conforming change;  the UA                                                               
System renamed the trust in 2019.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO turned to invited testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:15:50 PM                                                                                                                    
CATHY  TAYLOR, Board  Member,  Alaska  Behavioral Health,  Kenai,                                                               
Alaska, testified by invitation in  support of HB 133. She stated                                                               
that  she  is the  mother  of  two  sons who  receive  disability                                                               
benefits. Her background  is in finance and the  ABLE program has                                                               
been one  of the best  resources she  has found to  help disabled                                                               
persons  manage   their  financial  resources  and   become  more                                                               
independent. It builds self-confidence, she said.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. TAYLOR stated  that the increase in  the annual contributions                                                               
from $15,000  to $20,060 allows  people with disabilities  to put                                                               
away  as much  money  as they  can  when they  are  able to  work                                                               
without  jeopardizing their  disability  benefits. She  described                                                               
the  ability   to  roll   over  college   funds  as   a  valuable                                                               
enhancement. It  will help people whose  education is interrupted                                                               
because of  their disability. Prior  to this they would  lose the                                                               
opportunity.  Increasing  the  age   of  eligibility  is  another                                                               
valuable  enhancement.  As   the  sponsor  mentioned,  disability                                                               
doesn't just  strike before age  27 so  it makes sense  to extend                                                               
these  benefits  to  a  larger   range  of  people.  It  is  also                                                               
beneficial to be able to use  these funds for more than a typical                                                               
university  program. A  four-year  program  isn't what  everybody                                                               
wants or needs, so being able  to participate in a certificate or                                                               
vocational  program   is  very   beneficial  and   will  increase                                                               
employment opportunities.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:20:23 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. TAYLOR said the ABLE program  has been very beneficial to her                                                               
family, but  because she didn't learn  about it until just  a few                                                               
years ago she  would like to see an  education component attached                                                               
to ensure  that agencies  that work with  the disabled  have this                                                               
information so they can help people set up these accounts.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:21:19 PM                                                                                                                    
DAN   SADDLER,  former   Representative,  Eagle   River,  Alaska,                                                               
testified by  invitation in  support of HB  133. He  reminded the                                                               
committee  that he  sponsored the  original  legislation in  2016                                                               
that  authorized  ABLE accounts  in  Alaska.  He shared  that  he                                                               
supported ABLE  as a legislator and  a parent. His son  Danny has                                                               
autism and at  age 23 is transitioning into adult  life. He needs                                                               
special behavioral  support, special  equipment for  his physical                                                               
needs,  supplementary  educational services,  employment  support                                                               
services,  and healthy  recreational outlets.  He said  these are                                                               
qualified  disability  expenses  that  will help  him  achieve  a                                                               
better life experience.  He highlighted how important  it is that                                                               
deposits into an  ABLE account would not disqualify  his son from                                                               
Medicaid or Supplemental Social  Security (SSI) benefits, because                                                               
both are critical in meeting his life needs.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER opined  that that  ABLE accounts  clearly                                                               
have  been successful  in Alaska.  A report  in the  bill packets                                                               
indicates that  there are  787 ABLE accounts  in Alaska,  and the                                                               
private  contributions to  those accounts  totals $7  million. He                                                               
posited that this has kept  many individuals from seeking support                                                               
from the  state. He  mentioned the  other conforming  changes and                                                               
described  HB 133  as  legislation that  makes  the existing  law                                                               
better. He also  thanked the Alaska Mental Health  Trust that put                                                               
$100,000 into designing ABLE accounts  and the Governor's Council                                                               
on Disabilities  and Education  for its  tireless efforts  to get                                                               
ABLE accounts established.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He concluded  his comments with the  observation that legislators                                                               
often are faced with how  to allocate limited public assets among                                                               
limitless needs. The value of HB  133 is that it empowers private                                                               
citizens to  use their  own money  to take  better care  of loved                                                               
ones without cost or burden to the state.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO expressed appreciation for his testimony.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:25:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO opened  public testimony on HB  133; finding none,                                                               
she closed public testimony.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   COSTELLO   held  HB   133   in   committee  for   further                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  

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CSHB 133 V. I Sponsor Statement.pdf SL&C 3/23/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 133
CSHB 133 Sectional Analysis V. I.pdf SL&C 3/23/2022 1:30:00 PM
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CSHB 133 Summary of Changes V. B to V. I.pdf SL&C 3/23/2022 1:30:00 PM
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CSHB 133 Fiscal Note 3198 - UA.pdf SL&C 3/23/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 133
CSHB 133 Presentation Updated 3.22.2022.pdf SL&C 3/23/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 133
CSHB 133 Supporting Document - UA Press Release 3.18.21.pdf SL&C 3/23/2022 1:30:00 PM
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CSHB 133 Supporting Document - IRS ABLE Accounts Info 3.18.21.pdf SL&C 3/23/2022 1:30:00 PM
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CSHB 133 Supporting Document - 10 Things You Should Know About ABLE 3.18.21.pdf SL&C 3/23/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 133
CSHB 133 Dept. of Revenue-ABLE FY22 Annual Report.pdf SL&C 3/23/2022 1:30:00 PM
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SB 233 v. A.PDF SL&C 3/23/2022 1:30:00 PM
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SB 233 Fiscal Note 981 - DOR.pdf SL&C 3/23/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 233
SB 233 Sponsor Statement .pdf SL&C 3/23/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 233
SB 233 Sectional Anlysis V. A.pdf SL&C 3/23/2022 1:30:00 PM
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